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Previous Page | Next Page Nadi Astrology - Part 4 My Experiences I consulted Kowmara Nadi, Vasistha Nadi, Maha siva vakya tulya Nadi, Kaushika Nadi, Kashyapa Nadi, Suka Nadi, Viswamitra Nadi, Vyasa Nadi, Agastya Nadi, Skanda Nadi in Chennai, Salem, Kanchipuram, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Secunderabad and Tirupati from 1968 onwards till now for myself, wife, son and other friends. Only at places recently at Hyderabad I was told that my leaf was not available and it should be got from Vaitheeswarankoil. Here are some of my brief reactions about the same;- After taking the thumb print, nobody asked me my date and time of birth no different appointments, nobody monitored behind the screen in other room, being an astrologer myself I was very careful not to give any clues. In the index scanning, leaf after leaf they asked whether moon star or lagna in chara or sthira or dwiswabhava rasi whether my name and names of wife and parents certain names after some God or Goddess or contained certain number of letter, sounds of letters whether present age is so and so whether coborns are so many numbers whether parents alive or dead, whether born certain seasons year month and dates etc Moon star etc etc They never asked the exact ones and I never told the exact ones till end. Now the real trick to tell exactly about your date of birth, names co-borns etc comes into play. Even if an exact chart with degrees of planets given can an astrologer tell these purely from astrological principles may be if he is thorough with his subject highly experiences but definitely no as far as telling the exact names probably in names likely may sound unless h e has got some extraordinary psychic powers . Then how do they tell with a broad chart. The exact past events and names when the detailed charts of twins also differ. I did not check the twins' charts with them and it would be worthwhile to do that for this research. So at this stage there must be having some method to correct the available nearest chart to give your readings. I heard that they rewrite the leaves at certain intervals of time as per the coding and system mentioned in some introductory to such to the cycles of time I am not sure. Or their recitation of some mantra would be enabling them to tell the events through some spirit. How did Sage Satyacharya write in Dhruvanadi a life pattern for each nadi amsha and, without fixing the nadi amsha one should not proceed further and he did not tell how to tell exact names. Are these so-called nadi readers are conversant with intricacies of astrology at all. I interviewed with some of them with some astrological talk, while reading they said they did not know much of astrology and said they were trained for 10 to 12 years how to pick up and read the leaves. Even if you cannot answer some of his questions pertaining to astrological debut such as moon position, moon star, lagna position etc, and some times even your birth date and month year since you do not know your birth data and chart, the nadi fellow tells your date of birth, chart, exact names etc. So it seems to me that the linking the exact names play a vital role and you can easily see the veracity of this since another person with some chart cannot have the same names of theirs and parents. Even in twins with 3 minutes birth difference the names of twins differ but sound similar but with different charts, but same names of parents. Being an astrologer I can easily see this whole process is to know the position of planets Saturn, Jupiter, Rahu, Ketu, Sun, Moon, Lagna for example if he asks whether I am 60 years old and I agree by working backwards from now the position of Saturn 2 ½ years Jupiter (1 year) Rahu and Ketu (1 ½ yrs) one approximately can know my birth year and their position at my birth year, If he asks whether I was born in rain season and I agree, sun position can be known approximately, similarly Moon position generally do not bother about the lagna that means birth time. They get satisfied with the approximate names also after some scanning. But still the whole chart is not known at this stage, these index leaves have got some linking charts to be picked up .Then they bring the leaf if available and give the whole chart exact date of birth, names, past events, future etc as a general Kandam and you will be impressed. This is their training process and they generally do not agree for reading without thumbprint even if you want to give chart. They never give the degree portion of planets and lagna in the chart. So obviously other Vargas charts the nearest one which matches your past events since it is not possible to have records of all charts. On 31st May 1993 (age 55) in Salem I tried to jot down points as the Nadi reader was reading leaf after leaf from the index bundles and he noticed and objected to the same. However, for the benefit of the readers, there are some questions which I noted as he was asking leaf after leaf till a correct details matched - " Brahmin, hospital born, father and mother expired, eldest, one maternal uncle, no sisters, own business, two brothers (total 3) mother name Ammal, married, wife there, one son, son government job, son teaching line, age 55running, own vehicle, government job, union/collector office; no sister, Simha rasi father Vishnu name, wife name Susheela, house rents, two daughters, foreign visited twice, mother government job, wife job, intercaste marriage, rasi dual sign, 1938/39born rain season, two marriages, wife housewife, one daughter, agricultural land, father government job, wife degree, housewife, only one brother, government job teaching line self doctor, rasi sthira rasi, no daughter, arts degree, finance business, father Venkata, mother Parvati name, intercaste marriage, factory job, son degree, chara rasi Mesham, birth night wife name starting with 'sa' ,, son government job, army department officer technical B.E. degree self temple degree, in politics son married intercaste, house rents, thula rasi, date 15to 30 , birth Sunday, star sravana, wife three letters, mother government job, father expired 20 years back, to son no children, temple constructed, wife name starting with "pa,paa,pi,pe" job transport job, own house, wife housewife, one son ,. Born Wednesday, lagna ubhaya lagna, father temple constructed, mother name starting with "pa.paa.pi.pe" court case problem; sthira lagna, transport department, side business cine production son living with you, lagna chara lagna , birth night, mother name starting with "pa paa, pi pe" ,B.Sc.,M.Sc.rasayana blood pressure mother name starting with "ya,ra,la va.." eatables business, now government job wife ulcer stomach , mother 3 letter name , father visit foreign; mother 5 letter name, house rents, thula lagna, avani month wife name starting with "sa,saa,si,se" family court cases, sugar problem, father government job mother name starting with "a,aa,e,ee" father alive, mother died, mother name 4 letters first letter 'a' wife ulcer, business now, computer astrology in own place, wife house wife , mother name last letter 'ra' self ulcer, wife operation, father own business and government job, wife name Rani, voluntarily retired before 4 years son in job, born Thursday sugar complaint, broker, government job, one sister housewife degree, self diploma, second house, mother expired 10 years back father temple administration, self arts degree, father in the beginning private job clerical, mother name 3rd letter 'pa,paa,pi,pe,pu,puu' 4th letter 'ra , raa, ri , ru' father real estate, black money income, no lottery income, court case, fight with son, self two marriages, self MSc, commerce, self engineering degree, also master's degree first job computer line, no railway air line job, mother name 3rd letter 'pa,paa,pi,pe,pu,puu' 1st letter 'a' father name Ramalingam, self technical civil engineering, operation heart, stomach, mother name Annapurna, one maternal uncle, self last child, Thursday born, hospital born wife name Saroja, small business in technical computer, son government job defense technical, self second child, born in fathers house, date of birth 7th sept,1938, Wednesday , voluntary retirement, one brother degree government job, one sister married degree". In 5th bundle of index leaves in about 15th leaf all the details about names, profession, lagna, rasi matched, the nadi reader told me when the thumb impressed would be connected to 5 to 12 bundles of General Kandam each bundle roughly containing about 50 leaves, any one of bundle and any one of leaf would be connected to you. In fact the nadi reader got fed up reading so many leaves and after 3 bundles he refused to continue even, but upon my request he finally got it in 5th bundle ie. After reading about 200 leaves (an enormous strenuous job for both of us!) can we get any clues from these types of series of questions to arrive at the correct leaf matching your data? Recently I had a funny experience while reading the index cards for my friend the nadi astrologer asked whether moon is in cancer in Aslesha and also asked about the approximate names of parents. We said the parents' names are correct, but the star is wrong. Then after some leaves, he again said the same parents names but with Pushyami star, which we again denied. After some more leaves, he again said same names but with Punarvasu star and we agreed since we knew the star and the chart. If we do not know the exact moon star what leaf the nadi astrologer decides and he may choose the wrong leaf. If he is not patient to scan thoroughly to verify other past events and the readings can be wrong. So it is possible, that somebody might have been born with similar parents named but with different moon stars, such as in twins or otherwise also elsewhere in different places. In olden days, the names were given as per the letters sounds mentioned for moon stars, though nowadays nobody follows those rules to give names., Even then the nadi astrologers tell the exact names not only of Hindus but some extent of foreigners also so what is that astrological principle from which one can tell exact names ? As far as I know there is none. Therefore, it is possible that the nadi astrologers propitiate some spirit to tell these exact names including exact past events, since they are not conversant with astrology thoroughly., The future events would come correct or not depends on theexperience and attention of the nadi astrologers. Also I found that all the nadi astrologers would not tell exactly the same future and events remedial measures defending upon the nadi grantha they follow, through they tell the past correctly I presume that the same is time when they tell about the past life. Invariably the remedial measures, they ask for some money to be given to nadi reader and the prescribed pujas to Gods/Goddess would be related to places the Tamilnadu. So these cannot be relied upon. You go to the same nadi reader after one year and take the readings again from the same nadi grantha, will he give the same readings as he had given one year back. I have yet to check this, without telling him that I consulted him a year back. I presume that it would be different readings of the nadi reader changer even if the same nadi grantha were consulted because I feel the person who reads is also involved in the process defending upon his experience. Just as an off-track, I gave on prediction to some client with probable turning, he came back later to me andtold me that it happened, and wanted to ask some other thing. I again looked at his chart at his second visit and could not find the astrological reason how I told that fury prediction, so is it some other extra sense working at the time of prediction along with astrological reasons to decide the event depending on your meditations andexperience. Yes, I feel it would be so, when there is doubt about the decision for giving prediction, purely from astrology angle. That is why, it is said in sastras that the astrologers should follow the ethics and Dharamas to couple real excellent reasons along with the analysis following the astrological principles, so that the correct predictions would come out. So what is difference between these Nadi Astrologers and the other real good astrologers. I feel the former would purely use his training with Mantra or spirit without any astrological background. Another safe escape a for the nadi astrologers is that he would say that he read whatever was there and you have no means of meeting anddiscussing with him again. Where as the other astrologer is answerable subsequent for his predictions, of course he can also escape saying that the birth time may be wrong, but it would be his moral duty andcertify the birth time depending on the events and the birth date. The nadi astrologers sued the Vakya Siddhanta for casting the horoscopes and some times the position of planets differ from what we get usually. One Tamil language expert told me that it is not possible to read the scripts understand. Some say that astrology is not a pure service. I feel that other sources i.e. medicine, space travel etc. Are also not exact andthere are failures in spite of lot of literature and research is available in these areas. Unfortunately the total literature, research andexperience in the field of astrology is not available. It is true that no exact future can be told in astrology or even in other sciences when the space rockets burst in spite of lot of computer calculations, experiments. Previous Page | Next Page Feedback | Email Mr.Rayudu | Home | Back To Top